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For this reason, the further back we go the more we find how men approached the bees with reverence. It seems that anything one can do to introduce bees to the area might be a good thing. The full kit comes with a Langstroth brood box for the bees to make a fully natural honey comb colony, the flowframe then goes on top to harvest any extra honey that is produced by the colony. They need us to stop chopping down trees and spraying pesticides all over the place. My only question with completed frames of all kinds is when using them does this affect bee population. There’s one here, locally who harvests “varietal honey” and never do the bees leave their beeyards. I look forward to sharing my experience with the flow hive and do the responsibe thing and find a mentor, educator and learn the relationship we can have with bees.Furthermore, with so many educational institutions growing because of this bee crisis, I’m certain that we will know within 5-10 years if the Flow hive is safe for bee’s. The “bee activists” need to support each other…because we are a rare breed indeed. Compared with around $50 – 60,000 for a decent sized extracting plant (say around 400 boxes a day..). The viewing windows around the hive, give the ability to conduct a quick check on activity and honey levels in the hive without having to suit up, nor open the hive & disturb (or squash) the bees. Will This seemingly minor convince could open up a whole new segment of otherwise responsible bee keeping. If people decide to learn how to care for bees and the populations increase, great! seek help or dont write, Zebedi I agree I am a commercial beekeeper and beleive this is a gimmick but may be used by someone with one hive for conversation only otherwise it is not practical. It’s also not true at all!! Since you can remove the FlowHive frame the same as a wooden frame to inspect you can also check how much is capped and if there is any sign of hive beetle in the Super. Yet another example of purists preventing people from taking up a vastly needed undertaking. Gravity draining honey is not efficient compared to spinning it, and in a commercial setup this gadget is just not practical. Maryam, I applaud your expertise and your passion. Perfect for backyard beekeepers . I would have enjoyed if you had gone much more in depth with this article specifically at where the current methods are superior to this new technology. Ignorance is constant. This means that once the dearth hits in June, all the honey those bees thought they had stored for their survival is gone with no way to replace it. More hives by more people means more locations for bees to live, and more people will be concerned about planting more flowering plants and using fewer pesticides. eesh. Two red flags: the honey frames are in the center of the hive, but that is where the bees put brood, not honey. Moar hives – moar bees.. now that every fat jerk who can get a hive running and milk it every once in (however long it takes for honey to buil up) will be getting this provided he has a backyard.. will contribute to saving bees whether its good or bad. If present you then need the Beekeeping education to know what to do. So if the issue is “we are losing bees and the world will die” why is it not a good thing that some bloke in Australia decides to take up beekeeping as a direct result of the flow hive initiative? This has been the most awesome summer learning old school. It is also used extensively in SA. What Degrees and life experience do you have apart from keeping bees ? Some plastics can give off chemicals with high temperatures. I may suck it up, and get them one for Christmas as a gift. Wax vibrates and changes temperature. Not only is it not practical, it is bogus as a 3 dollar bill. And vulgar? You almost could have sounded genuinely concerned for the bees welfare but your jealous, disdain and contempt pretty much washed that out for me. Yet without some sort of communion, doesn’t the process kind of look like honey-robbing? I am not convinced this is not a good thing for the bees or the hobbyist. Having just read this article I was thinking there was something drastically wrong with this hive method of extracting honey, like it was actually annihilating bee colonies – but then it struck me, it’s envious more than anything. I happen to manage a custom top bar hive with 1 1/4 inch brood bars spaced to 1 5/8 inch for honey storage. Admittedly I have limited experience, but I am learning and that means keeping an open mind. The bees do thinly cover the plastics with wax & they still produce propolis to seal seams, corners of the frames & box. Mmmm. This is a certain view . We don’t want to touch the bees at all!! I will take bee keeping classes well good for you. A lot of bee keepers use plastic. As might be with a hobbyists ? Bees don’t particularly like plastic. This is a first generation of a new idea for collection only. You’ve said it well Cleo. The setup costs (around $600 per hive for small part time operators..) means that a commercial beekeeper with around 1200 hives will need to find over HALF A MILLION DOLLARS to change over ! I am a certified beekeeper and the pests are the main problem to contend with not the ease of draining off the honey. Cheers As for the Flow Hive from the moment the Chinese to copy and each cost us 20 everyone will use. You can inbed manufactured artificial foundation on wire to guide the comb building bees. In fact the hive learns it can use this system to store their food, honey without the energy expended to produce wax for building. You should really lighten up. I can certainly appreciate purist sentiment, but this level of negativity doesn’t seem rational. This hive is revolutonary and no it may not be 100% natural but its a step forward, whereas your article is two steps back. So as a beekeeper, I WANT the hands on experience. For instance a man has a patent for a fingernail polish remover – a tube that you pour fingernail polish remover into then put your fingers in one at a time. They are agreeing to not use pesticides that will harm our bees… What a terrible thing it has been for bees that we purchased this “expensive gimmick”. The viral-ity of this fundraising campaign was astounding. You hit all the points I try to make when another person posts the thing on my FB page. My son and wife are considering it, so they asked for my opinion being that I am an experienced beekeeper. The Flow Hive is not as sweet as it seems. It’s hard to read an article against the evils of commercializing the Flow Hive when the article is so packed full of commercials (between paragraphs, in the side bar, pop-ups). I am exactly the same as you. I love the idea of the product but I also tried looking for its negativity. The second part is the cost. Both require maintenance, love, husbandry. 1. Duh? “One wants to see this be successful, easy to use, and contribute to the world of improved beekeeping,”  adds Kim Flottum, beekeeper and editor of Bee Culture magazine. sounds like someone is jealous or just plain bored to tears. It has also been used for many years in beehives for both brood and honey combs. Other than that, this blog is just a bunch of negative nonesense. From what I understand, with this one, you spend maybe 5 minutes getting it set up, move on to the next one, and then circle back after a given time and spend 5 minutes reversing your previous actions to collect the honey and reset the hive. The flow hive is not going to do this. Unfortunately in this alleged critique, the author does not utilize any of these criteria. We will keep you informed if anything changes and we begin to use any different types of materials.”. But as they say, the road to hell was paved with good intentions. The bees expend less energy building comb, just like when you reuse honey comb (with all the caveats that has; fortunately, this isn’t brood comb). This also shows us people who would like to keep bees if the means were more simple. Wow lots of bots here, I wonder why my comment got deleted and their comments can stay? Sometimes it just takes an open mind to achieve a better way. I live in South Africa where we have two honey bee species, Apis Mellifera Scutelata and Apis Mellifera Capense, which have a slightly different cell size requiring different foundation wax. Who cares if they do it just for the honey? I keep bees because I love having them around. If there are more beekeepers, think of how many bees there will bee!!!! I have seen bees set up shop even in old tires ! To me none of your arguments made sense. we got our entire system (base, traditional langstrom brood box w/ frames, queen excluder, super w/flow frames, and roof, all of it) for $700. John Moser, George Sprague, theallseeingmaster, Reece, Brent R Franklin II, Yes he is computer savvy and uses alternate energy but the truth was for ten years the man simply wanted a more gentle way to collect honey. 3 – Yes it’s expensive, that’s because there’s a hell of a lot more work and materials involved in making this as opposed to a traditional hive. ( Speaker drops mic, and walks off), Lmao.. Same bees, Same scenario. Oh and “the road to hell is paved with good intentions” is not only one of the least intelligent sayings. I merely stated my informed opinion from dozens of books and seminars. we have less bee deaths than with a traditional hive. No frames are removed for transport or torn apart. Now the clean environment I would lean to a natural process of harvesting. Commercial Beekeepers are our major worry on Australia as the amount of time consumed in collecting and processing Langstroth SUPERS negates much of the proper inpection time. Try planting some patches of wild and other flowers that bees love around your property to help the bees out. I joined a Bee Club 6 months before I got my FlowHive. Get involved with Center For Food Safety or show Vanishing of the Bees to your children. Thanks! There’s nothing like slowing down, with reverence and care, to peek into a hive and observe the. Flow Hive actually costs more than a standard Langstroth hive. This article makes me mad. Even with a volume discount that could still be around $400k for a 2000 hive operation ? I use bioplastics in my 3D printers. To answer one of the blogger’s questions, logically, more hives will result in more habitat. For people with mild mobility/strength issues, I would recommend the Kenyan Top Bar Hive as there is not lifting of fully laden boxes of honey. (I think they were talking about conventional hives My bees don’t seem to mind the plastic at all, and many commercial bee keepers use plastic foundation. Also consider most hobbyist beekeepers i know drop off their honey supers for extraction for a $10-15 fee and don’t have to mess with anything! Seems worth trying to me. While our intentions can be good, the outcome can be less the beneficial (think of all of the times we have donated to catastrophe causes, only to discover the funds never made it where we wanted them to go, or were not used appropriately.) Many homeowners are interested in being a larger part of how they obtain their food but obviously most can’t have bees the traditional way. There’s nothing like slowing down, with reverence and care, to peek into a hive and observe the . it took at least a decade of research which is probably hat you should do before throwing the first stone. If a beekeeper would keep half of the honey for the bees, I also have no problem with. The family lives in the hippy area of Byron Bay in Australia, has kept bees for three generations, and the son works part time for Greenpeace. Mmm buy your honey from the store in a plastic jar ???? The author of this article doesn’t seem to have even taken a good look at their site or the forums therein! Really ! The brood box below is where they lay eggs, undisturbed, upper superbox is where they store honey, also undisturbed if you use flowhive. If, however, all you’re interested in is “honey harvesting”, may I suggest that the Flow You didn’t say it doesn’t work. Good luck, and I hope to hear more. Both the beekeeper and I agree that the publicity and attention to the cause of saving the bees is a good thing. The only message I get from this ridiculous article is that you are envious of this invention, saying humans are arrogant by putting honey on tap, do you even know all the shit bee keepers do to bees to get their honey?! Someone who has the gumption to knock the Flow Hive. for the remainder of the hive. I revere the bees. The frames contain a partially-formed plastic honeycomb lattice with vertical gaps. The bees come out at the back of the Flow Hive when the lever hole is uncovered and they know that the lever going in is an invader. No More California Pay To Play: Get Lost Big Pharma, Fruit Flies And The Age of Poisons In Central America. It’s an evolution of hundreds of millions of years and science have only had it’s major advancement in the last century. Luddites don’t like progress. Not many people will add another brood chamber to this, or go in and check for pre-swarm activity and take action to ensure good honey build. Mature honey pours slowly and steadily – how else do you empty the centrifuge? I expect lifting and placing frames and bars and 80 pound supers is more hazardous to the bees than turning a tap. Seems like a fantastic idea to me; I’m sure the bees aren’t any more enthusiastic about being robbed, but they’ll surely appreciate not having their home ransacked in the process. When someone succeeds at something there’s always going to be that person though. And now, I’m going to have a little big of egg in my beer, with a honey chaser. The cost is prohibitive for “whimsy” purchasers so most people investing most likely will have a healthy curiosity and care for the bees and desire to learn about them not just stick them in a hive and walk away. And you don’t even have to wash your hands. Dedicated email, chat, phone support, and access to our Flow Community Forums that are a hive of activity and information. I could watch them for hours and I enjoy opening the hive (not too often) and seeing their work. This doesn’t even begin to cover the problems with pests and insecticides. Initial thoughts from this article are.. Worked surveying diamond mines in Botswana (based out of Francis Town). Also, I think that making bee keeping easier to access, as well as possibly a lil more hands off, could attract people like myself, who are afraid of bees, into having a positive experience with them. It is a trait that the one percent rely upon, and bugger the bees who do all of the work. It sounds like it may confuse the hive and possibly they could eventually vacate. Communion Between Bees” is a false statement and they would also need to and it’s THEIRS. The simple fact is that people that know a lot more about bee keeping than you think it is just a fad and will not “revolutionize” beekeeping. How’s the view from that high horse? Folks need to s l o w d o w n and humbly observe the marvelous world of a colony. And what about the concerns with using commercial wax foundation that might have pesticide residue in it from commercial beekeeping/pollinating? If a similar idea is implemented in a different enough way, it can be patented without infringement. did they ask for help and did anyone show them what to do for themselves? Who’s being emotional? Not everyone is like you I hate to say, and you should not be appalled in that fact. I bought the Flow Hive for my wife (we have five hives total) and I cracked open two full frames about a month ago. Just because you’re assuming a specific (most harmful) method of use doesn’t mean that is how a product should be used. Is it aimed at industrial market? NO as I have invested in a FlowHive and know. Just a matter of materials and time. He developed all this in one of the poorest regions of Brazsil and transmit their knowledge to all of us, and share with you. Perfect example on why evolution through technology isn’t always good (people may think evolution stays still because of that, but that’s not true it’s just not the visible part that changes) it’s really hard to put this “idea” into words, but with such an example I’m sure everyone can understand, Human mind + tool + confrontation of an idea (harvesting honey, why you should show respect, stuff like that) = good, human (no mind, because process is simplified by pressing a button [human acts externally like a robot]) + (no tool since I see a tool as something that is getting used and not to work by istelf) + No confrontation (you may not think so, but that’s the most important part, this wisdoms vanishes over generations if it gets “unimportant”), These kinda things are always the same, because their priority in design lays always on efficiency, a problem of capitalism. Some people buy the best and do the best for the pets/animals they have, others simply just do the best they can, and unfortunately there will always be some that neglect. I haven’t seen any evidence that food grade plastics are hormone-disrupting. I don’t know but that is probably closer to $600 of health food store honey. Truth is, bees are still in trouble and although there are innovators attempting to help, they are actually doing more damage to bees than helping solve the problem. And yes, my primary purposes would be for my fruit trees and eating honey. The Center frame parts are made from a Virgin Food grade Polypropylene which is also free from any Bisphenol compounds and is widely accepted as one of the safest plastics for food contact. To group a product under one word plastic is like saying all wood is the same which we know is rediculous. It is not their choice to have a lot of things happen to them. So why would anyone be against encouraging people to become hobbyist beekeepers and let them evolve. As far as it being expensive, yes it is pricey, but so is traditional beekeeping! As someone who studied apiculture, communication is everything to the survival of bees. You are not a beekeeper, are you? I crushed a bee today installing an additional top bar in my hive. my This you do not remove frames and inspect each one every harvest. that’s a projection. First you smoke the bees, then you pull out the rack and knock all the bees off so you can harvest the honey. Will wannabe beekeepers be mindful of nature’s rhythms or simply gorge on honey all year round? Let the fad beekeepers spend their money on this for a while. We now live in Hawaii and use top bar hives we built as they seem to be offering better protection over the horrible SHB’s (small hive beetles). Don’t be naive to think that the FH eliminates the need to inspect or manage your bees, nor magically protects them against the myriad of issues that can beset a bee colony.. HERE in Australia, with average annual production around 100 kgs/hive, most commercial beekeepers are running between 1200 and 2 or 3 thousand hives… It is another gimmick which lends itself to the factory farming of bees. It’s all about balance. The power loom and other advancements which made this possible brought an enormous downsizing of linear-scale production, which is bad. Thanks for taking the time to comment. I am also learning about Permaculture. It is a ruthless insect colony. If you want to start beekeeping you should learn howto, it won’t work with one of these… Also I wander how to clean it and what lifetime it has? informative and clearly explains that hive health, and all the If you are new to beekeeping or are setting up a Flow Hive for the first time, then this is the bundle for you! I will be buying 4 flow frames only and installing them in a Langstroth super along with some traditional frames so that I can achieve a simple harvest of honey without disrupting the colony too much and also occasionally harvest a frame for the natural comb, at which time an inspection of the colony can also occur, hand in hand with an experienced beekeeper. Labor costs vanish. Most beekeepers, including myself, will tell you that honey is just a bonus. The release of the flowhive has seen a huge surge in beekeepers, and importantly has assisted the education of the masses about the importance of bees to our very own survival. As a beekeeper the cutting of comb and extraction process is brutal. Disclaimer: The entire contents of this website are based upon the opinions of HoneyColony, unless otherwise noted. What I would love to see how is you and your fellow experienced and cultured bee keepers reach out to the inventors to try and solve the issues presented with the new flow hive invention. So there’ll be more dilettantes? Beware of things that look too good to be true…. ???? Hello. Firstly, Plastic is and has been commonly used with beekeeping for some time now. We invited them to keep coming to our meetings and learn about bees rather than being afraid of them. I feel this entire article was written by resentful bee keepers which you can see with some snide remarks in the report. The average person doesn’t. Ummm… I can’t think of anything else. If you have a solid bottom board, and you have had rain recently, the hive may be struggling to dry out the floor. I do have an electrical licence. My girls are sometimes rascals and sometimes quite generous in their tolerance of my antics in their homes. You are looking at $800-1000 AUD for a hive. Flow have stated multiple times that you still need to take care of your bees, follow normal beekeeping practices and perform regular inspections. From old tyres to concrete structures. Sadly many people have had similar ideas BUT the materials and manufacturing did not exist in Spain in the 1040’s. The world moves forward through believing in individuals. I guess i must be stupid to response someone on here to prove a point it is as if arguing with a monkey in a zoo over i want his banana. I think he would have loved the idea if he was still with The correct word is swarm and bees only swarm naturally if the hive becomes too large. Your reasons are not a reason not to purchase this product. Australian native bees are small and stingless. May “traditional” and devoted bee keepers use plastic foundation frames for their hives. So Real Flowhive users wait patiently for capping. Anyone know of an objective article written based on facts and truth? Natural comb size, tighter spacing, and appropriate breeding (open-mated queen in your own area) all contribute to hive success. I don’t know, but still this is nothing new! #ohwait – shut up and don’t. Get real, get your facts right, do some research first before commenting. We only want 1 have not even close to the 20-30 hives of a bee hobbiest. But I guess everyone in europe was illiterate. The only difference is in the honey harvest. Stop telling everyone If the bees hated it that much they would leave the hive and find a new home. I am curious why you say mature honey does not flow as the viscosity of any honey old or new is primarily influenced by temperature. Looks like a gadget to me, for people who are not really into by beekeeping but just want easy honey… Those are not the kind of people that should keep bees! Many times on the FlowHive website the inventers keep telling people to JOIN a local Bee Club. Just because you don’t, doesn’t mean most don’t. read my submission An. I have a lot more point by point criticism of the garbage i read here but I got better things to do with my time They are magical. So someone that knows little about it is an expert on what is a :fad that has been used since the Minoan era 1682 BC and is currently in use in Tanzania, Kenya and West African countries. Bees don’t need people to cuddle them and care for them. Super keep doing it. Conceptually, the idea that a beehive is like a beer keg you can tap is troublesome. The Flow Hive is not as sweet as it seems. I don’t know if there is any truth to the claim of bees not liking the plastic. I was curious to know how you transfer a nuc of bees into an easyflow hive… Do you have any experience with doing this? How Safe Are The Phase III COVID-19 Vaccine Clinical Studies? This is one step in getting more people caring more about bees and wanting to be to part of the cure rather then the problem. its worth, the literature that comes with the flow hive is very I had someone tell me they heard that its incredibly messy and honey gets everywhere. I am appalled that the producer of Vanishing of the Bees (a documentary which I enjoyed very much) could not articulate better arguments than this. But artifacts in india that have been uncovered in the last 20 years show toy planes made out of brass. Please read the Flowhive FAQ You have to somehow manage bees. Ive used a langstroth, then made the lang into a top bar of sorts then used a top bar. It may well turn out that this is just a “fad” as you think, but it could be the next big thing. Either way – I wish all beekeepers the very best now and into the future and look forward learning much from you all. I like to tinker with things. It then has all the bee wax cut from the surface and placed in a centrifuge where a mixture of honey, small peices of wax, bee parts and what ever has collected on the frames (including pests) is spun out with mechanical force. If my Flow Hive pros and cons list is insufficient, please chime in. Learning. There is nothing lucididic about human bees are controlled, it’s just like a hive with energy of the masses on tap, the honey may be free, but this invention is open to abuse by potential thieves or greedy owners who would take all of the honey like taxes from government and let the bees go without, I think it’s a bad idea period, gimmicky and lazy. The simple fact of beekeeping today is that you must manage them actively, or they will die from lack of food or Varroa mites or viruses. Thank you. Plants are designed so by nature. I do intend to attend the (traditional) beekeeping course that I’ve signed up for to gain the respect and relationship to bees, but as always with my internet research, I have to come across bitter opinions. In Australia we use the Common European Honey Bee. The flow frames’ entire purpose is to just simplify the honey harvesting process. God only knows how much medicine has improved through individual risk. Complete with any diseases the might have picked up in the whole extraction process. I have infinite hope that mankind will quit poisoning themselves and the other creatures of our world. My take on this is this product is it’s taking away from those who are doing it as a business. The bees reuse the wax caps without any chance of contamination of the wax through previous cutting and mechanical extration by centifuging multiple frames from multiple hives. Uh, when the drones have finished their business they explode in the process. How about instead of not being rude and telling us “lazy, hungry honey-eaters who are also terrified of being stung. However, this “gimmick” will promote and increase the number of hobby beekeepers. I grew up with bees and have a hive myself. ???? 2. My thing is, don’t back lash something if you haven’t tried it yourself and if money is the issue than change over slowly in time. You’ve given them a slightly-damaged but workable comb to finish–the flow comb needs a little internal sealing (top and bottom center)–and then they fill, process, and cap like normal. Wow, your point was lost in your superior tone, and negativity. in my view another pertinent aspect the bee keepers must keep in mind while using flow hives is that it acts against bees assigned task by nature.normally a bee fills the cell and then seals it with wax–this has been their routine for centuries–but with flow hives the cells never get filled-what ever honey is stored gets flown out from other end of the cell which would ultimately disturb the bees routine and chances are that after some times the bees might abandon such cells or the entire hive for being some thing abnormal. Not to mention, one of the suspected factors in colony collapse is the stress caused by moving bees around as pollinators. Of course, this was when they were still in their wild state; men found it so, and they looked upon these things as a revelation. Juan Garriga patent to Flow Hive created 1940 patent US2223561. A certains moments, la moindre trace de miel provoquera une frénésie chez les abeilles alors que pour la flow-hive, on laisse les pots à l’air libre, une vraie bombe à retardement…C’est ce qu’on appelle le pillage, regardez la vidéo suivante pour apprécier ce que produisent quelques gouttes de miel égarées à proximité d’un rucher –> VIDEO, Imaginez des pots entiers laissés à l’air libre, vont être contents les … So please, if you’re not able to control your desires that lead you to murder other species, at least control your desires not to invent justification for the murder by using unilateral self-deceptive arguments, which are supposed to keep your conscience lame for long time to come. Is it better? I would encourage all who visit this site to take advantage of the link for FlowHive on the second line of this opinion piece by Maryam. I am not a beekeeper myself, but I research my little friends and I am working on a project for children regarding. I was curious about the issue of the plastic- I do know that plastics with BPA are hormone disruptors and harmful. As far as price, that will come down as time progresses…(I’m old…I’ve seen that happen before!!). Actually, many hobby beekeepers will tell you that honey is not the main attraction. My problem with this design is mostly symbolic. Many must be you and aneghbor. No one can do as well as we the old guard etc. I’m on a 3 acre property in a subdivision and I’m sure my actions/lack of knowledge will result in the deaths of many bees over time… just as I’m sure my knowledge will increase and my ability to help the bees will increase with time. After all we may not come from “a a long family connection with bees”. I have not checked what they have done since writing this story. don’t think so.! The Flow Hive is BPA free. This article and all the discussion and That’s enough! just use a queen excluder to make sure that the super only contains honey. 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